Diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) has been a particular topic of conversation for us in recent months because we’re finally paying it the attention that it’s deserved but hasn’t gotten. More and more of the students and clients that we work with are making it a priority in their communities and in their engagement. Some are dealing with it well and some are still floundering. The challenge may not be as much the topic itself but finding ways of helping people who look a lot like me truly understand and talk about what nonbinary and people of color have faced. Dr. Caprice Hollins offers a basic, sound, very lucid way of learning the perspective of others and what white people can do.